Sin is sin regardless and it seperates us from Him. Didnt God provide for this with the whole concubine thing. Its all good. What about their families? Join Facebook to connect with Diane Coy and others you may know. What else was I wrong about? Who cares about me now that Im not influential or important?. Jesus transforms, not a pastor. I am not telling them to let him keep his job. Its as though the biblical gospel is not interesting or compelling enough; its as though the biblical gospel does not comport with increasingly American ideas of libertarianism, guns, stand your ground, etc. The perpetrator must be removed form the pedestal men have placed him on in order to allow restoration to begin. You represented well. Some times I come in so late that I just leave again. I think its a fair request. To make my last post clear, the amillennial position is not from God, and the true position, that takes the Bible literally and believes in a literal 1000 year Kingdom when Jesus returns, is the original position that the first believers held. Instead, other churches were bought out. Miami New Times also pointed to a long list of other staff who are part of the global family of Calvary Chapel churches and have been accused of sexual abuse, including a number from earlier this year. Contrary to what is being said, we have not found many churches that are both Biblical and socially minded to help the hurting. Humiliation breeds humility. Smith even launched a music label and began fusing Evangelical faith with electric guitars and drum kits. Frankly, they have been the source of the majority of the venom but I think most of us realize these are people in a sort of shock at the news, who are hurting and whose trust has been violated and are lashing out. By 1986, his church had outgrown the funeral parlor and attracted about 1,200 regulars to an Oakland Park chapel. a new church down the street] Against the dysfunctions of the church [ Why cant we all just get along? Over 24 hours from when the story broke, one mainstream media has posted something. I disagree with him on many points, but I will not slander him. To Michael (#646), It isnt the case that the MLK crime scene was unprotected. 17 The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains. The superstar life isnt good for anyone. Probably ended about 4-5 yrs ago, so whoever was doing it afterwards- I have no knowledge of. OK, then dont tempt them by giving them too much power and authority. Whenever we see something like that on a show like this, it causes us to get concerned. Bode cared more about saving his mother than he did about himself. The vision of this church is multi-sites everywhere all under the umbrella of one man. I have sympathy for this man (and especially his innocent family) because the Lord is instructing me in compassion, I also know that it has taken many years for my family to recover from the harm and hypocrisy of the leadership of this church under the helm of this man. At the same time I will stand with every CC pastor who is seeking to do church the right way. NOTHING can take that away ! Join the accusers my friend, but just know that you will end up where they also will end up, and thus in the name of Jesus I rebuke you!!! Irenaeus taught dispensationalism in the 2nd century. a normal message from an assistant with no mention whatsoever of anything. I hear bible preaching and teaching being translated into military and sports metaphors all the time. Not one of us is truly living a life of purityand are struggling with some kind of sin. I never liked him .he was a smooth talker actor on stage and the bigger he became the bigger and cockier he became. Do you realize that you rightly distinguished Bob Coy as a mere man from Jesus Christ the head of His Church and in the next sentence wrongly ascribed to Bob the works and fruit of Jesus Christ? Money, Power and Sex: Mamon, Mars and Aphrodite. 8. I have been told my counselors, pastors, and friends to let it go because God has forgiven me. I would say Coys doctrine was a 9. Ill be praying for him, Diane and his kids as well as for the impact this will have on CC of Ftl. Get your own. Ill go first. We are all sinners, we are taught to forgive, and I forgive you. Jesus,Jesus, Jesus.in everything Ive read, not one has acknowledged that He died for this very reasonEVERYONE OF US IS GUILTY. Who gets the title? I can understand why you might take offense by what appears to be piling on here on a blog like this. Diane Downs children: Where are Christie and Stephen now? The next level of givers got to have a dinner with them with more people, the next level got a buffet dinner> The next got a lunch buffet and then some got nothing.. We are all fools if we judge a fellow brother.to the amount of forgiveness and grace and mercy we give, it is given to us.go light on your brother, for we have been forgiven much.. anything else is not of Christ.beware.and anyone who tries to twist it, discipline is always meant for restoration. http://thelasthiker.wordpress.com/2014/04/06/pastor-bob-coy-the-church-adultery-consequences-and-grace/. His fame went to his head. "I was brought into the Lutheran church without a choice that's where I learned what a religious environment was like, but I was missing the spiritual thing.". Bob Coy's income source is mostly from being a . You may act almost Muslim like around women like you say but there are a lot of ways the devil can knock you on your can too. If you want to have a theological dialogue you can find one here. So, in this regard bravo to this church. {} 9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea. Something really big is going to come out soon. Many months have gone by since then, and a few days ago I received a text from my friend in which she shared about Coys resignation/admitting to moral failure. I would imagine if Chuck Smith were around he would probably have Coy restored in about 3 months. Net Worth of Coy Gibbs-After the death of Coy, the citizens are sincerely interested to know about his net worth and constantly search on the internet. http://pompanobeachfl.gov/pages/department_directory/development_services/planning_and_zoning_division/pdfs/maps/city_map.pdf, http://www.city-data.com/zipmaps/Pompano-Beach-Florida.html. I hope you reconsider your life and realize there is a more excellent way to live which God wants to give you. Our reach is vast and includes TV programming, radio broadcast, video blog, podcast, digital music, and social media or print publishing resources. Chuck would say that its a shame for all the talent to be wasted. Moe-Thanks for clearing that up. We just dont want to have this degenerate into a personal feud. [sad to say but true in my experience] Bob could easily do 6 months to a year for that and be right back at it in no time. That may be his opinion. No one will recognize him on the beaches of South France or strolling through Florence. 5. Hes also fortunate to have a leadership willing to assist in his restoration and a congregation that will be praying for him. And I pick up the pieces of sins wake daily. She may be one to something. A Calvinist sniffing for sin and pointing the finger at those who have been successful with a different paradigm, and relishing in the fall of those who do not hold his view, seems to be very suspect and stinks of ulterior motives. You, on the other hand, seem to have difficulty. Not everyone has the same weakness so Let him who has no sin throw the first rock ! Sordid details. If you think it is to avoid war, famine and sickness you are wrong. The reformed/protestant groups picked up on it, since they were catholics and knew nothing else. MLD wrote: so you put up a man who has been dead over 400 yrs and argue with him. I agree with Michael, that MacArthur is being grossly misrepresented here. The churchs assets are around $135 million, according to the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability. In January 2016, he and Diane filed for divorce in Broward County. It could very well be that Coy had them take his stuff down, not the other way around. I have read that 7500 attended the meeting last week. 2023 BuzzFeed, Inc. All rights reserved. Michael Newnham, a pastor from Oregon whose blog "Phoenix Preacher" details the scandals swirling around Calvary Chapel, pointed to sources claiming that Coy is trying to mobilize investors, because he wants "back in the game.". You can try and stick anything on me you like. Shooting the messenger is rather common in the initial hours of disbelief. Coy has had a national ministry, not just one to the local church and his fall is a matter of national news. My ex CC pastor is following Coy in his vision of mult-sites and to me its just not a good vision at all especially when the pastor falls like this. Just my two cents. His wife was beautiful and she still had competition for her husbands desires. Coy has never been criminally charged, and if there were other cases of sexual harassment or abuse in the decades he ran Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, neither the church nor cops have revealed them. What Happened to Aunt Diane? Diane Schuler Case - YouTube CC has deleted him from their history. Bob chose to do that.. But you still havent addressed the question, has Luther ever taught anything wrong? It never is. He admitted to it. We all fall short of the Kingdom and I was just feeling very deeply convicted this morning about how I fail God. Become a member to support the independent voice of South Florida Youre right. Leadership made every effort to let the staff and church hear directly from leadership rather than rumor by calling meetings for Sunday, our source, who asked not to be identified, told us. 29 Brothers, I may say to you with confidence about the patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. But I should know better than to engage with people who hold to replacement theology. . Its my blog. I have just called the church and confirmed. And, arent mega-churches equipped with a mega-staff..and, therefore, dont mega-pastors have access to an ample accountability network? He might have resigned but I doubt the cash flow is stopping for him. In his later days, he began registering cars that were essentially completely custom fabrications as antique automobiles, avoiding major emissions restrictions and tax liabilities. LOL, go and pray about it. Pastor Bob was my pastor for 20 years, and my heart is broken. I have seen the results of calvinism, on many unwary new believers, it seems these Calvinists have a difficult time preaching the gospel and winning converts after all those that God has chosen are already saved, but these Calvinists have no problem infiltrating the churches and stealing Gods sheep with their vain philosophies based on man, let no one spoil you Paul warned, and this Calvinist preterist teaching is a rotting festering leaven in the body of Christ today! When my wife and I first started attending CCFL in 93 he preached with humility and it was refreshing. The Bible says, let he who is without sin cast the first stone! Antonio, No I have not been tempted but I have always made sure that i never put myself in the position to be tempted. Coy says he was never approached by the police about the allegations. That was followed by more worship. What does numbers have to do with anything? They are serious brothers and members of the body of Christ and you should give honor if you want to be treated with honor. She'd never even told her family about the crimes. "We are not led by a board of elders.". 6 And the wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. Maybe the crime scene was unprotected late that night. You have to reject the Old Testament. The kid did great for ten years until he had his own moral failing 5 years ago. Actually that is not in the Bible a humorous mistake for a literalist. In other news: It has been confirmed Goonies 2 is happening! Im over 40, never married, do not view porn, and am still a virgin and guess what? I think quoting one of the ten commandments isnt politically correct. Why does the emphasis these days seem to be on altering The Message in a manner which appeals to the culture? just because others in the Body of Christ hold to different conclusions regarding aspects of theology doesnt require them to be wrong. I felt the call to stand up for righteousness and expose this pastor after I learned of the many women who suffered the same thing before me and had many people come against me for that, too, which really hurt. I would say this before you do anything , cry out to the Lord on your own and I mean CRY OUT!! Too much too soon. How do you know that Isaiah is speaking of the millennium other than Missler or some other end times guru told you. Bob deserves what ever happens to him and has others said that does not include returning to his post as pastor. We all know that we are all sinners saved only by Gods grace. Michael Newnham, a pastor from Oregon whose blog " Phoenix Preacher " details the scandals swirling around Calvary Chapel, pointed to sources claiming that Coy is trying to mobilize investors, because he . #470 IMO the way the women looked going to that church was a big problem that no one addressed. Brian is extensively involved in missions and church planting around the world. The divorce file includes nearly 30 pages of documents related to their finances and settlements. I forgive him and i still love him. Please understand I dont mean that condescendingly, it just is fact. Coy's flock, which had followed him for decades as the church became Florida's largest, was devastated. I dont think Ive ever seen this happen quite so quickly. You will tow the line no matter what. It is my hope and prayer that you find healing and peace. 6. He even had his own brother stand in front of thousands to apologize. When I say I have no sympathy for the adulterer, I mean I dont but the excuses oh, he was tempted (the other womans fault) oh he is a celebrity (other people s fault for putting him up too hign) -oh, well his wife got fat and ugly you can go on and on. 33 Being therefore exalted at the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he has poured out this that you yourselves are seeing and hearing. You have brothers and sisters in the world that are not able to mention their faith without fear of loosing their freedom or life. At times I feel I get a lot of unnecessary flack from some people, but they have to feel comfortable in expressing their opinion, even if I disagree. Is all sin equal to God? Returning to a CC isnt returning to folly unless you know its folly. The interpretation is right there in the text he is telling the listeners that they are witnessing that very event.. You can keep attacking Luther it doesnt phase me one bit. Thank you, Nonnie for your prayers for my children! That said, of course we all pray for his restoration to God, for his marriage, his family and those of you who entrusted yourself to his leadership. It was very beautiful and solemn there. @616 The covenant with the many is for seven years. 0. hat happened to Sharon? 8 Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great citywhich is figuratively called Sodom and Egyptwhere also their Lord was crucified. As I made comment on those who did, others jumpe in and made each a Luther discussion. Krent, Why do you express yourself behind screen names? I can only speak for myself, I want that I say to be more important that who I am. The dicey part for this church is that there is a chance that some leadership people knew this was an ongoing problem for years. Is Israel becoming a nation not a fulfillment of prophecy? to clarify, are you saying that Coral Ridge Presbyterian is Jezebel leading Jesus bond-servants astray? I always kinda felt sorry for his wife..now more than ever. maybe you could pray for everyone and call it a day. I havent brought up Luther once I very rarely quote him. Were you directed by the Holy Spirit? If someone tried to start a ministry that they had no control over (even Bible studies) they were often shut down. THAT pastor contacted the board. The ecstasy of the evil one, and the sighing of the Lord begin with the actual sins of the pastor and the unfathomable wreckage now in the wake. He can't be put in a position of power ever again.". Most commentators will agree that seven times is seven complete revolutions of time, being a unit of a year for each time. Ixtlan, Yes I completely understand this. There have been a large number of new posters (many anonymous) who arrived in the first couple days of the news. Both guilty? So his wife and kids just need to realize that this is the reality of life and BC is no worse or better than the average man, perhaps even a better man a stronger man, who is going through this facing the ravenous wolves that most of you have become! All the CC folks on here are quick to point out that the CC leaders are sinners and flawed. What kind of God would we serve if he chose some at random to go to hell and some to go to heaven. In 2009, a fatal wrong-way crash caused by a soccer mom killed eight people. I did. Our pastor, he committed sexual immorality, habitually, through pornography. As for your other questions well the answers from my point of view are complex and mixed. Coddington grew up in Rupert, Idaho, reading all the car and hot rod magazines he could, and got his first car (a 1931 Chevrolet truck) at age 13. "Our pastor, he committed adultery with more than one woman. What happened at Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale? Hugh, Ill mark the calendar. "If you're angry or you're disillusioned or you're fearful, if you embarrass yourself or you disappoint yourself he can take all the mess and turn it into something beautiful.". Coy is friendly and voluble, but his lively green eyes suddenly brim with tears when he's asked about the sexual assault claims. Even though Jesus said that all of the OT was about him, you pre mil dispies say no Jesus, there are still outstanding promises to Israel you owe them. Not by nickname, but by real name, facebook and email often even knowing each other in person when geography permits. Sounds like the sin isnt what concerns you but its about the money. Matt Tague, former assistant pastor at North Coast Calvary Chapel in San Diego, was fired by the church after he was arrested in May on six counts of lewd and lascivious acts on a minor under 14 years old. Police say Thomas has admitted to the abuse (though his criminal trial is pending). The strange thing is that Mark was with Bob for almost the entire 30 years as his #1 right hand man and Mark was a brilliant businessman. Michael, my cell phone is if You have anything youd like to say to me. It was supposed to be raised for a new sanctuary that was to be at the North-East part of the property near the canal and would take up part of the main front parking lot. It is plain as day but these are the same folks who bring us blood moons, 1,000 yr earthly Jesus reigns raptures etc.. , Macarthur being grossly misrepresented? Thank God we are saved by grace through faith, I understand, my apologies once more to the forum and MLD, how each one wants to handle their feelings in this situation whether with condemnation or mercy is between them and God! They were the ones with the power to fire him, and they did so. There is another one in Daniel 3 He ordered the furnace heated seven times more than it was usually heated. Now according to your view of numbers in Daniel, they would need to check the temperature with their thermometer and raise the thermostat from 400 degrees to 2,800 degrees. I would hope all even those closely associated and even directly hurt would dig deeply to not bring more disappointment to Christ by acting in a Unchristian like manner. There are many Christian men who would not trade their happy monogamous marriages for the most beautiful women in the world. Thank you Bob Sweat, Paige and others who have gone through thisthank you for speaking truth and speaking with love and grace. I have been tempted to be unfaithful, yeah, and its not funny. This is between God, his family and him. And when some were gone like that in recent years, it was probably said, they were troublemakers, or, they didnt respect the work of God, and so on and so on. He wasnt in any shape to give up a kidney anytime soon, so Jake was his best option. Is there a man here who would NOT do the same. I am. Leaders who fall into sexual sin are generally never the same once the sin exposed, even when repentance and remorse is demonstrated. Pastor Robert Coy, the former Las Vegas casino entertainment director turned religious leader for one of Florida's biggest megachurches, has been accused of molesting a 4-year-old girl. Yes, wasted. Most of the regular posters, find no glee in what has happened. Bob Coy, founder of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale in Florida who resigned as senior pastor over moral failings in 2014, has been accused of molesting a girl when she was 4 years old and into her teens. The reason for the resignation is a "moral failing," according to Calvary Chapel leaders, as reported by the Christian Post. Charles Ward SmithJune 25, 1927 Ventura, California, U.S. October 3, 2013 (aged 86) Newport Beach, California, U.S. #472, anonymous.. how are you related to all of this. I suggest you would be considered a loving person for doing the same. There were ample cases to make that point. Unless you have any evidence to prove differently you are wrong. Skip Heitzig (born 1955) is the American founder and senior pastor of Calvary Church, a Calvary Chapel fellowship located in Albuquerque, New Mexico.External links. Sexual sin is appealing, addictive and readily available especially in this internet age and when the relationship at home is not following Gods plan and design (and yes, it even happens in homes of church leaders) it gives way to justification for sin to prevail. Lets see what you have. Most of those folks may stop sinning in some areas, but then the sin of pride and self-righteousness (which the bible says god hates) seems to dog this Group post-saved. RiBo @ 145 Yes, all the more evidence that men are still sinners after they are savedthere is no transformationmen still sin in the same or different areas as before they were saved.. This is bad for the pastor, bad for the general congregation. This dynamic makes guys like Coy hide their sin for a long time b/c they know if theyre caught, the game is up and theyre exposed for not being saved or not being specially anointed etc in the CC mindsetand they lose their power and career. Im very content with the ministry God has given me. The Bible is inerrant. You do not know amillennialism from duck squat. Just answer the question! 4given By that account we are all guilty, except it would seem for MLD.. There are MANY CC satellite churches in this whole region, all 3 counties, that beam him in via video for Sunday services all of them depend on BCs teaching and preaching. As they relish in someone elses sin, they are blind to their own, self righteous Pharisees! MLD, no point in debating anything with you. They are the ones truly in need of prayer. Coy Gibbs: Cause of death| What happened to| How did die You sound like someone that isnt going to listen and repeat blindly without A deeper understanding, youre exactly what the body needs, I did not come to bring peace, but a sword Jesus. I am pointing out the fact that giving flawed man too much power and authority is corrupting in both politics and religionno matter how specially anointed they claim they are or how endorsed they are by Chuck Smith etc. In the same vein, Sharon had no cause for alarm. My information says fired. He resigned he was not fired! God is able to do that. and join the scoffers and Mockers, then you will know that Im not speaking Gods word to you! Antonio, I think you were best served by disagreeing with MLD. If it comforts you to think otherwise, thats not my problem. He really should have thought this one out. I have visited Potential Church and Church by the Glades and they fall under the seeker resurrgence apostasy movement, watered down gospel, entertainment, FALSE church. Which is the essence of the lordship salvation false gospel. When we objectify we act as gods. Coy's faithful didn't know it, but just over a year after the pastor's resignation for adultery, Coral Springs Police launched their investigation into a far worse allegation. I also sometimes am forgetful, as everyone can be, that I should have rejected the conversation after the first or second admonition of your errors. But some thought it was financial issues. MLD, satan is bound? Be strong and have Faith.. Everyone loves u and repentance will heal..prayers to u and your family. Can the congregation recover? When he made them laugh he had them. But the report is true, the blog host reported accurately and now that the rest of the media is reporting the same thing, these voices have quieted down and are left to the long task of relating to a new devastating reality. Any ideas? Pastor Bob Coy scandal: Resigns from Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale Andy, OK, you go with that but to hold your position you have to call Peter a liar in Acts 2. Martin Luthers Disciple says: So Gary, why do you bring up the Lutheran thing. No way around the fallout. There was no word of any affair, nor his family leaving him. He who is true God became true man united in one Person forever. Nobody handed him the keys, he built this church. Trolling for a controversial reaction Flynn? Be careful, any of us could be next. Find a church that could use your contribution of time and talent and let the mega house worry about itself. In another, he called adultery "the ultimate betrayal of trust in human relationship" and cautioned that "repentance is not just being sorry that you were caught.". All. Unfortunately dont think he should ever be restored to ministry. Thank you! When did I ever mention Bob Coy? Diane Downs gave birth to four children. CC is not all bad.its the best there is for getting away with bad behaviors! Did he really? You said you werent CC, and didnt know B Coy, but now your motive is clear, so youve been lying all along. We love you pastor bob..u r man and we failbut God forgiveswho knows that better than u. As of September 2017 1,800 churches operated with locations in all 50 states across the United States of America, and others internationally. Believers need to be warned at the outset that this is the pile of dung that they are buying into when they open the door to Calvin and his disciples! The fig tree was a representation of the leadership in Jerusalem and what did Jesus say to it when it had no fruit? God intends good to come out of this, but you cannot receive when you are in this disposition. Now, like all humbled sinners should, may he experience effective and redemptive compassion from those that love him. Were prayers publicly offered for Bobs wife and children and the church Bob has hurt so badly or has the church now expunged the record and just moving forward. Lets wait and see how many women he defiled. What else do you claim to know better than Jesus. Itll continue, itll just be a lot smaller taking in a lot less money than pre-moral failure, 807 you never proved anything that you claimed which is rumoured to be false. "If Calvary gives these pastors this much authority and they use and abuse it with no accountability, they have to blame themselves.". He is currently producing the debut album for his band The 288's, a God-inspired Hip Hop/R&B group that combines soul-baring lyricism with an electric innovative sound, breaking from the norm and reaching all cultures & ages (save senior citizens). Indeed, police records show no progress on the case until eight months later, on April 4, 2016, when Coy's young accuser showed up at Coral Springs Police headquarters. I still live Pastor Bob. There should be no quick fix restorations. CCFL is currently led by Pastor Doug Sauder. So do II just ate half a box of Chicken in a Biskit and have terrible indigestion. If you were trying to help and that help in some way exposed something evil-there were plans to rid of you. MLD, I would love to meet you someday, as you are the only man I have heard of who does not struggle with this in some way., LOL. I dont understand the part about bringing pride into this in some of the comments. They have been given that power, as was Coy. I said way at the top that Bob Coy can be restored as a brother. Bob has helped save thousands with his teaching and we should leave the punishment up to God and pray that he will repent and use this fall to come back stronger than ever. He was telling them that real actions in the Christian life work on your spirit. My hypocrisy? We can all get through this. Your. I like to know everyones sin here and blog about it. Thats what I love about Calvinist preterists, and that is that they are consistent, in denying the literal aspects of scripture and have to do exegetical gymnastics and use pretzel logic to try to prove their conclusions that the Bible does not mean what it says, and says what it means, so when it says that there will be a 1000 year reign of Christ, it doesnt really mean a 1000 year reign, but its symbolic, in fact we are already in the millennium, in fact the lamb is lying with the lion, its to be taken spiritually, (I had one preterist tell me that his cat and his parakeet were getting along and played together and that that was proof for him that we were in the millennium), and Satan is chained up right now (yeah right!
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